Saturn in Twelfth House
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Saturn: According to Paulus this was one of the better positions for Saturn if it was also a diurnal chart and in a masculine sign. Paulus states: "And it will always make those who previal over their enemies and oppress them, and those who are proudly confident in their own work.". [73] At first, this seemed counter intuitive to me, thinking that Saturn here would make secret enemies powerful. But it then made sense to me that Saturn in the 12th house dignified and of the sect exposes the evil of secret enemies. It does not allow them to scheme in darkness undetected because in the daytime there is none, and Saturns cold and dry (and dark) nature is turned into its opposite. There is also the issue of "being proudly confident in their work". This can be explained by the principle of neglect that Saturn represents. This is because in a diurnal chart, neglect is minimized and becomes thoroughness. If Saturn also has strong dignity, it can mean a lifetime of service being rewarded by an increase in status. I would expect similar and better things to be the case if Saturn was lord of this place and/or dignified, and above the horizon. Valens was not as positive about this position of Saturn, saying: "...will produce great injuries and calamities...". [74] Valens did not specify the chart sect. However, if Saturn is out of sect here (or debilitated and afflicted), it shows neglect, an avoidance of responsibility, and difficulty in budgeting time. Some might suggest that this comes from a past lifetime of shirking some important responsibility or possibly an abuse of power. Depression, unreasonable phobias are likely possibilities, which could lead to abject circumstances if taken to the extreme.
Notes:
71. Paulus Alexandrinus, Hellenistic astrology Introductory Matters 378 A.D. © 1993 Robert Schmidt, through Project Hindsight, Published by The Golden Hind Press. See pg. 60. Schmidt now calls "divinity" spirit instead.
72. Ibid.
73. Ibid.
74. Vettius Valens. Anthology, Bk II, Part 1. aprox. 160 A.D. © 1994 Robert Schmidt, through Project Hindsight, Published by The Golden Hind Press. See pg. 10.
75. Ibid.
76. Paulus Alexandrinus. Introductory Matters 378 A.D. © 1993 Robert Schmidt, through Project Hindsight, Published by The Golden Hind Press. See pg. 60.
77. Ibid.
78. Ibid.
79. Ibid.
80. Ibid.
81. Ibid.
